Comments on: Stack And Tilt Golf Swing: What The Heck Is It? http://www.mikepedersengolf.com/improve-golf-swing/stack-and-tilt-swing/ All About Better Golf Tue, 23 Feb 2010 21:00:40 -0700 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.8.6 hourly 1 By: Bryan Bodhaine http://www.mikepedersengolf.com/improve-golf-swing/stack-and-tilt-swing/comment-page-1/#comment-2546 Bryan Bodhaine Thu, 31 Dec 2009 22:36:11 +0000 http://www.mikepedersengolf.com/improve-golf-swing/stack-and-tilt-swing/#comment-2546 Mike- Great blog and discussion on the Stack & Tilt. What are your thoughts about the facts none of the pros seem to stick with it, and the only pro I can think of actively using the S&T that has won with it is Will Mackenzie. Aaron Baddeley used to be the poster-boy for this swing, but he has since abandoned it and gone back to his original swing. As I watched him more (and others using it) I noticed the bad shots increasingly going to the left. Especially during high pressure situations. I personally think this has been caused by a reverse shift at impact which is very easy to do with the S&T. Thoughts? Mike-
Great blog and discussion on the Stack & Tilt. What are your thoughts about the facts none of the pros seem to stick with it, and the only pro I can think of actively using the S&T that has won with it is Will Mackenzie. Aaron Baddeley used to be the poster-boy for this swing, but he has since abandoned it and gone back to his original swing. As I watched him more (and others using it) I noticed the bad shots increasingly going to the left. Especially during high pressure situations. I personally think this has been caused by a reverse shift at impact which is very easy to do with the S&T.
Thoughts?

]]> By: James http://www.mikepedersengolf.com/improve-golf-swing/stack-and-tilt-swing/comment-page-1/#comment-2192 James Wed, 23 Sep 2009 03:00:57 +0000 http://www.mikepedersengolf.com/improve-golf-swing/stack-and-tilt-swing/#comment-2192 What has really worked for me( all technical points aside) is the weight forward idea. All you have to do is start with noticeably more weight on your front foot, and then press into that foot as you take the club up. This will feel noticeable different than what you are used to. With this in place you should hit fewer thin hits, but it may also result in more pushes, especially with the longer clubs, so you may have to adjust the positioning of the ball. What has really worked for me( all technical points aside) is the weight forward idea. All you have to do is start with noticeably more weight on your front foot, and then press into that foot as you take the club up. This will feel noticeable different than what you are used to. With this in place you should hit fewer thin hits, but it may also result in more pushes, especially with the longer clubs, so you may have to adjust the positioning of the ball.

]]> By: Jorell Rohan http://www.mikepedersengolf.com/improve-golf-swing/stack-and-tilt-swing/comment-page-1/#comment-2164 Jorell Rohan Tue, 21 Jul 2009 05:41:58 +0000 http://www.mikepedersengolf.com/improve-golf-swing/stack-and-tilt-swing/#comment-2164 Stack and Tilt works great! BUT, it has it's secrets... It has been my natural swing since the start. This is my first year of taking golf seriously and getting out to play more than once or twice a season. Now I'm out 3 to 4 times a week on the range hitting 200 balls or playing rounds. It is possible to get good distance with a driver. I can regularly drive over 300 yards with S+T. I have noticed the "on and off" days everyone keeps talking about...and after 2 or 3 weeks my swing did get messed up a little just like everyone describes. So I started thinking...why would my swing be awesome and then for no reason start losing power, and hitting crap shots...? I took video upon video and anylized my good swings from my bad swings and what I found is that when I first started getting out this year I was really loading up well, loading the shaft and driving my hips forward...producing a powerful swing with a lot of consistancy. A great S+T. As this season has gone on, I've gotten more flexible from the S+T (Left arm, back, mid section). That's where the problem lies for most people that they don't notice... My back swing was getting farther and farther back, my wrists were cocking further, my left knee was dropping farther, and because of all this my weight wasn't driving forward on impact. I, in a sence, got so flexible I couldn't properly load my club, and the farther I went back looking for the powerful "coiled" feeling I found at the begining of the season, the more my timing and swing angle got out of hand. So, looking back for all of you other S+T'ers out there, make sure you check your angles (wrist cock and left knee flex especially), and don't let your increased flexibility ruin your great new swing. Just slow it down and concentrate on driving forward and opening your hips. If not you'll probably wind up driving your body more up, than up and forward...zapping your power and leading to those "on and off" days. One more thing I've found that is suppose to be a big no no is that S+T works a lot better if you keep your arms straight at address, rather than letting them hang down naturaly. Think of yourself as a giant pendulum. Keep the shaft and your arms on a 45 degree plane all the way through your back swing. It kind of feels like swinging a bat but it feels natural and easy because of the left shoulder dip and forward lean. Keep your back at a 45 and your club plane at a 45 degree angle and you'll drive like a champ, a little steeper for irons. (I also use a bat style grip, not over laping my pinkies at all) This helps keep the club face square and leads to consistancy. If you are having problems with contact, try bringing the club back shallower (like a bat) on your back swing. DON'T FORGET TO DRIVE YOUR HIPS FORWARD/UP AND OPEN THEM UP. Also remember on your back swing your knee should point to the ball as it flexes, and your right knee should straighten. Don't over flex your left or you'll come in way too steep and take a divit. As you get more flexible, you'll have to think about these things and check yourself. One more thing, tee your ball up so that the top of the driver head is lined up about 3/4 up the ball, and in the middle of your stance. Any higher or forward and you'll lose distance and power. Throw all of that ball forward in your stance and tee up higher crap out the window for this swing style or you'll suffer and be stroking your 5wd (off the carpet) just as far as your driver. Good luck. Jorell If you have any questions or want to see more video feel free to contact me at JorellR40@gmail.com *search for "Jorell's Stack and Tilt" on You Tube if you want to see a good example of when I was starting to lose my shot. You'll see the over cocked wrists, and no hip thrust forward. But it will give you a general idea of where to start. (Keep in mind I forgot my cleats that day, and your left foot shouldn't turn as much as mine in the video.) Stack and Tilt works great! BUT, it has it’s secrets… It has been my natural swing since the start. This is my first year of taking golf seriously and getting out to play more than once or twice a season. Now I’m out 3 to 4 times a week on the range hitting 200 balls or playing rounds. It is possible to get good distance with a driver. I can regularly drive over 300 yards with S+T. I have noticed the “on and off” days everyone keeps talking about…and after 2 or 3 weeks my swing did get messed up a little just like everyone describes. So I started thinking…why would my swing be awesome and then for no reason start losing power, and hitting crap shots…? I took video upon video and anylized my good swings from my bad swings and what I found is that when I first started getting out this year I was really loading up well, loading the shaft and driving my hips forward…producing a powerful swing with a lot of consistancy. A great S+T. As this season has gone on, I’ve gotten more flexible from the S+T (Left arm, back, mid section). That’s where the problem lies for most people that they don’t notice… My back swing was getting farther and farther back, my wrists were cocking further, my left knee was dropping farther, and because of all this my weight wasn’t driving forward on impact. I, in a sence, got so flexible I couldn’t properly load my club, and the farther I went back looking for the powerful “coiled” feeling I found at the begining of the season, the more my timing and swing angle got out of hand. So, looking back for all of you other S+T’ers out there, make sure you check your angles (wrist cock and left knee flex especially), and don’t let your increased flexibility ruin your great new swing. Just slow it down and concentrate on driving forward and opening your hips. If not you’ll probably wind up driving your body more up, than up and forward…zapping your power and leading to those “on and off” days. One more thing I’ve found that is suppose to be a big no no is that S+T works a lot better if you keep your arms straight at address, rather than letting them hang down naturaly. Think of yourself as a giant pendulum. Keep the shaft and your arms on a 45 degree plane all the way through your back swing. It kind of feels like swinging a bat but it feels natural and easy because of the left shoulder dip and forward lean. Keep your back at a 45 and your club plane at a 45 degree angle and you’ll drive like a champ, a little steeper for irons. (I also use a bat style grip, not over laping my pinkies at all) This helps keep the club face square and leads to consistancy. If you are having problems with contact, try bringing the club back shallower (like a bat) on your back swing. DON’T FORGET TO DRIVE YOUR HIPS FORWARD/UP AND OPEN THEM UP. Also remember on your back swing your knee should point to the ball as it flexes, and your right knee should straighten. Don’t over flex your left or you’ll come in way too steep and take a divit. As you get more flexible, you’ll have to think about these things and check yourself. One more thing, tee your ball up so that the top of the driver head is lined up about 3/4 up the ball, and in the middle of your stance. Any higher or forward and you’ll lose distance and power. Throw all of that ball forward in your stance and tee up higher crap out the window for this swing style or you’ll suffer and be stroking your 5wd (off the carpet) just as far as your driver. Good luck.

Jorell
If you have any questions or want to see more video feel free to contact me at JorellR40@gmail.com

*search for “Jorell’s Stack and Tilt” on You Tube if you want to see a good example of when I was starting to lose my shot. You’ll see the over cocked wrists, and no hip thrust forward. But it will give you a general idea of where to start. (Keep in mind I forgot my cleats that day, and your left foot shouldn’t turn as much as mine in the video.)

]]> By: StevieBoy http://www.mikepedersengolf.com/improve-golf-swing/stack-and-tilt-swing/comment-page-1/#comment-2157 StevieBoy Mon, 06 Jul 2009 16:33:13 +0000 http://www.mikepedersengolf.com/improve-golf-swing/stack-and-tilt-swing/#comment-2157 I am concerned about back problems with the S&T. I used it and thought it was fantastic but backed off because of a physiotherapist specialized in golf told me I would injure my back and pop a hernia if done repeatedly. I really want to get Stacked again but I am worried for my back. Any studies that could help me? StevieBoy I am concerned about back problems with the S&T. I used it and thought it was fantastic but backed off because of a physiotherapist specialized in golf told me I would injure my back and pop a hernia if done repeatedly.
I really want to get Stacked again but I am worried for my back. Any studies that could help me?

StevieBoy

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]]> By: Ed Parsley, Sr. http://www.mikepedersengolf.com/improve-golf-swing/stack-and-tilt-swing/comment-page-1/#comment-2132 Ed Parsley, Sr. Tue, 19 May 2009 00:45:37 +0000 http://www.mikepedersengolf.com/improve-golf-swing/stack-and-tilt-swing/#comment-2132 John, Read your mail.. I too have the DVDs and they do help on pointing out parts of the S&T swing. One I just found and tried was the right hip turning up and back on backswing, along with left knee bending to target line at the same time...helps work the tilt to the left ..Also using the hands by going inside the line.... Trying to keep in simple is a good idea and not think too much except the weight must be on left foot all the way to the finish....I use a slide high finish..A must ...Ed Parsley,Sr. John, Read your mail.. I too have the DVDs and they do help on pointing out parts of the S&T swing. One I just found and tried was the right hip turning up and back on backswing, along with left knee bending to target line at the same time…helps work the tilt to the left ..Also using the hands by going inside the line…. Trying to keep in simple is a good idea and not think too much except the weight must be on left foot all the way to the finish….I use a slide high finish..A must …Ed Parsley,Sr.

]]> By: Golf Management http://www.mikepedersengolf.com/improve-golf-swing/stack-and-tilt-swing/comment-page-1/#comment-2131 Golf Management Mon, 18 May 2009 15:18:09 +0000 http://www.mikepedersengolf.com/improve-golf-swing/stack-and-tilt-swing/#comment-2131 Hello Ed, I love the S&T. The DVD's are amazing and do improve game score. My swing is improving that's for making this possible. -John Hello Ed,
I love the S&T. The DVD’s are amazing and do improve game score.
My swing is improving that’s for making this possible.

-John

]]> By: TimothyW http://www.mikepedersengolf.com/improve-golf-swing/stack-and-tilt-swing/comment-page-1/#comment-2130 TimothyW Thu, 14 May 2009 02:47:10 +0000 http://www.mikepedersengolf.com/improve-golf-swing/stack-and-tilt-swing/#comment-2130 Hey Ed Congrats on your success with S&T. The hip slide is a key move with the S&T; if the hips get lazy with this swing then it pretty much goes south. You mentioned a good key point about the shoulder, it sounds like you are making sure that it's pointed down towards the target line on the backswing on a sufficiently steep angle so the club head can on a downward angle and get the ball up in the air. How are your misses with the S&T method? They should be very playable shots as opposed to having to scramble. Hey Ed
Congrats on your success with S&T. The hip slide is a key move with the S&T; if the hips get lazy with this swing then it pretty much goes south. You mentioned a good key point about the shoulder, it sounds like you are making sure that it’s pointed down towards the target line on the backswing on a sufficiently steep angle so the club head can on a downward angle and get the ball up in the air. How are your misses with the S&T method? They should be very playable shots as opposed to having to scramble.

]]> By: Ed Parsley, Sr. http://www.mikepedersengolf.com/improve-golf-swing/stack-and-tilt-swing/comment-page-1/#comment-2129 Ed Parsley, Sr. Wed, 13 May 2009 21:23:51 +0000 http://www.mikepedersengolf.com/improve-golf-swing/stack-and-tilt-swing/#comment-2129 :smile: Been practicing a lot with S&T . One thing recently found out that thinking towels on backswing really helps keep my swing more compact! I am also thinking on swinging through the ball...Slide at the target with hips and high finish...(Slide-High) finish, especially with driver...Another point if i don't use left shoulder moving DOWN at ball will lose power...My Irons are much straighter and in easy to score results around greens!! Ed Parsley,Sr. :smile: Been practicing a lot with S&T . One thing recently found out that thinking towels on backswing really helps keep my swing more compact! I am also thinking on swinging through the ball…Slide at the target with hips and high finish…(Slide-High) finish, especially with driver…Another point if i don’t use left shoulder moving DOWN at ball will lose power…My Irons are much straighter and in easy to score results around greens!! Ed Parsley,Sr.

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