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Stack And Tilt Golf Swing: What The Heck Is It?

Posted by Mike in Improve Golf Swing

I recently came across an golf swing article called the Stack And Tilt Golf Swing that was very interesting and is becoming very popular. In fact, Golf Digest Magazine did an article on it as well, so it is definitely gaining some popularity.

Golf swing instructors Mike Bennett and Andy Plummer have devised this swing method. They have a stable of PGA and Nationwide tour players, so they got attention very quickly.

If I’ve peaked your curiousity, Mike Gray over at Life In The Rough golf blog has a follow up stack and tilt golf swing article. Mike does a great job in comparing (see sample picture from article below) two top level players…and pointing out the suttle but definite differences in the so-called modern golf swing and the stack and tilt golf swing.

Stack And Tilt Golf Swing Comparison

The player comparison involves Number One in the world Tiger Woods and a stack and tilt golfer named Will MacKenzie. The pictures are fabulous and very easy to pick out the differences in technique.

Head on over to LifeInTheRough and check it out :smile: !!

Check out the Stack and Tilt Golf Swing Part 2!

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58 comments, sweet!

Comment by Double Eagle Subscribed to comments via email
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October 7th, 2007 at 3:10 pm

Thanks for the mention, Mike!

Ever since I heard about the Stack and Tilt, I’ve been intrigued, for the simple fact that unlike a lot of fads, this one is getting some attention on tour.

I’ve been enjoying writing about it, and even more, I’ve been enjoying people stopping by to comment about their experience with it and sharing tips and ideas that they have. With something this new, it’s not like players can walk into the book store and pick up a book to teach them the swing.

Aside from a couple of articles in Golf Digest and a few teachers teaching it here and there around the world, information is scarce. But, the online golf community is coming together in impressive fashion to try out the swing and talk about it, creating an excellent, growing resource for all to benefit from.

Comment by Mike
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October 7th, 2007 at 3:28 pm

Yeah….I’m going to read your posts and see what I can learn :smile: ! Not looking to redo my swing, but might learn something to get it more consistent!

 
 
Comment by thomas reddy
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October 7th, 2007 at 5:59 pm

wow and i thought i heard it all but this stack and tilt is a new thing to me, I can,t seem to find anything on it. Are you pulling my leg mike hehe :lol: , it sounds more like a poker thing than a golf swing,.,.,

Comment by Mike
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October 7th, 2007 at 6:17 pm

No joke Thomas :smile: ! Just click on the links I have in the above post. As I mentioned, Golf Digest did a 3 part segment on it. Smart magazine to keep throwing more confusion out to the golfer :shock: !

 
 
Comment by thomas reddy
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October 8th, 2007 at 4:32 am

Right i have found out everything there is on this stack and tilt and a lot of golfers i know swing like that in anyway, but its not something i think i will try even though it does seem to have some success, but their are so many people out there telling me so many different things now everybody seems to contradict each other,…

Is there more than one way to swing and hit the ball right,……

regards a confused little irishman :roll:

Comment by Mike
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October 8th, 2007 at 5:18 am

I agree! The magazines and many instructors only make it MORE confusing :shock: !! Learn the fundamentals, get fit and enjoy the game :lol: !!

 
 
Comment by Mr Business Golf
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October 8th, 2007 at 4:39 pm

The Stack and Tilt Golf Swing is about all the Golf Channel and Johnny Miller have been talking about for about two weeks. Whoever came up with it has a hell of an agent or marketing firm to get the word out about that swing method so quick.

I may have to look into the S&T Swing since the Mick-Herron (Phil Mickelson and Tim Herron) method I have been using, which consist of a stop by the Waffle House on the way to the golf course, is not getting me anywhere.

Comment by Mike
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October 8th, 2007 at 5:25 pm

So it’s more about marketing then eh :roll: ! I wouldn’t recommend the Mickelson method either.

Comment by Mr Business Golf
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October 8th, 2007 at 6:02 pm

With anything in golf, Marketing is everything. I don’t think the “X Factor” Swing that Jim McLean became famous for got as much hype as the S&T.

I still that the Mick-Herron method has merit since they both went on to win a tournament after using it, but the questions now is…Where are they now? Maybe Jenny Craig should come out with a golf swing for them.

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October 8th, 2007 at 7:10 pm

I’m not sure the X-factor was so much a unique swing as it was just a function of a certain part of the standard swing (the relationship of hip turn to shoulder turn), though, I really need to read the book to confirm that.

But the Stack and Tilt, on the other hand, has fundamental concepts that are counter to the concepts in the modern golf swing. The fact that it found it’s way on tour is a big deal, because as with any sport, the masses take their cues from the highest levels.

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Comment by Mike
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October 8th, 2007 at 6:07 pm

It’s all in good fun if you ask me. Most golfers want to play better, but take the wrong approach time after time. I hope to dispell many myths on this blog and convert as many golfers as I can to the fitness approach for better golf :wink: ! Wish me luck!

 
Comment by Tony
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October 9th, 2007 at 12:57 pm

The FITNESS approach IS the first step to better golf. There is also much to be said about what works for you, individually. This applies to both fitness and what is most comfortable, consistent, and effective in your golf swing. There are parts of the modern swing, as well as the stack & tilt, that work for different people – depending on the type of shot called for in any particular situation. Also, whether to use either the modern swing, or stack & tilt, might be pedicated on body type and physiological makeup. Personally, being a shorter golfer, 5’8″, and using standard length clubs, I have used the stack & tilt and found much success with it over the past 3+ years (it is not a new swing as marketing hype would suggest). Here is a video link to the stack & tilt, being taught to Peter Finch by Bennett and Plummer.

http://www.golfxtz.com/view_video.php?viewkey=200c36f7cd9dfd0e5dea

Comment by Mike
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October 9th, 2007 at 1:29 pm

Thanks for the link to the video Tony, and your consistent contribution to this new golf blog!

 
 
Comment by Bob
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March 19th, 2008 at 3:16 pm

I have been teaching golf for 50 years and take pride in keeping up with all the latest developments in the golf swing. Stack and tilt is definitely different and I would have changed any player making these moves in my life as a professional. I have tried this method and am shocked how well I hit the ball. For the time being, I will be trying this new method.

 
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March 30th, 2008 at 8:37 am

Im using this new swing and its great, so simple. I have been playing golf for 50 years and never hit more solid shots.I play to a 6 handicap and im 69 years young.I would suggest to any golfer try it , its so simple to learn. Thanks Frank

 
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August 12th, 2008 at 2:34 pm

I learned this swing 6 years ago from a guy named Joel Wright out of Toronto, Ontario, Canada, He had written complete descriptions and was communicating it with
the top coaches in golf as well as several Top touring pros including Phil Mickelson and Mike Weir. Most interestingly, within a month after dealing with Phil, Phil began to utilize it in his irons and he went on to win 3 majors in a row.

Mike Weir, I have noticed has modified his swing as well since that time, into more of this swing mode.

I doubt this to be cooincidence.

Thanks Mr Wright for improving everyones swing this much.

 
Comment by Mike
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August 12th, 2008 at 3:18 pm

Hey Jerry!

Thanks for taking the time to post over here!

I’m hearing so much about the Stack and Tilt Swing I think I’m going to do a eReport about what muscles need to be strong and flexible to pull this swing off for 18 holes.

Sound interesting?

Best,
Mike

 
Comment by Steve
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September 2nd, 2008 at 12:18 pm

I am also intrigued by the mechanics of this swing. It appears on the surface that without significant thoracic flexibility this would produce back injuries. I am anxious to see what position the spine is actually in at address.

Has anybody seen any research or studies on spinal alignment with this method?

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October 12th, 2008 at 9:34 pm

Hi Steve,
I do understand your issues concerning injuries to the back using the stack method. I have been teaching golf since 1983 (some 100,000 lessons) and have yet to find the perfect golf swing. The golf ball is struck with a hitting motion and result lies with in the consistency of the blow being delivered (golf club not swinger). Tiger is a hitter and Phil a swinger (got the idea). Back to your question: lower back problems will (could) if the pushing of the hips (too much) are used to erect the body into the follow through position. The concept is not create a reverse pivot where the hips push laterally in the back swing but the remain still over the ball and not doing the Jimmy Ballard move. The body will create naturally the standing up move through the arms reaching full extension (online hit) pushing the left shoulder (left side upward).
I hope this makes the hitting action more understandable.
Best Regards,
Erol

 
 
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October 6th, 2008 at 5:34 pm

Mike,I have been doing your intermediate level of ultimate golf fitness for a couple months now.I have been using the stack and tilt swing for about the same length of time with fantastic results.My last workout I decided to use a 15lb dumbbell,taking my golf grip with both hands on the handle,and duplicating the stack and tilt swing in slow motion in place of the lateral side exercise.Whewwww,you would not believe how hard this is but yesterday,a day after doing the exercise this way,I shot a 74 from the tips with an 8 handicap.The stack and tilt felt really grooved and natural.Do you feel the exercise is partly responsible or maybe just I was hitting on all cylinders(zoned) for a day? Thanks Randy

 
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October 29th, 2008 at 9:44 pm

I read about it on golf digest’s website. So I took notes on it and drove to the driving range. I never it the ball so solid and consistant. I did hit some fat and thin shots, but when i stayed on tempo, I hit it well. I’m going to buy the DVD and study the swing.

 
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December 7th, 2008 at 8:06 pm

I was tooling around with the Stack and Tilt via the Golf Digest magazine article and my ball striking was immediately improved. I did purchase the DVD’s, and got a more detailed look at the swing. After watching the first two DVD’s and going to the range, I was practically flushing all of my irons with laser like accuracy with a slight draw. The stack and tilt does work. With Stack and Tilt I am hitting the ball center of the club face, which has led to increased distance. For example, I hit a squarely flushed 7iron 165 yards. Before S & T, a good 7 iron shot, prayerfully straight, would have been 140 yards.
Overall, my ball striking has become consistent and solid, however, as with any swing change, one has to ingrain new movements and counter old mechanics. One the technical difficulties I had with S & T was staying to the left side on the down swing, but after reviewing the video, I better understood what my hips had to do in the downswing. After re watching the video, I went to the range and hit nearly every ball solid and straight without spraying them all over the place which will lead to improved accuracy. The Stack and Tilt will definitely bring a level of consistency to my game that I have always struggled to maintain.

Although Bennett and Plummer have a lot of critics concerning their swing, mostly because it goes against most conventional golf instruction, I would tell anyone to try it, work with it, and see. With a little effort, I know you’ll strike the ball a little better than you are already striking it.

As for the critics of Stack and Tilt, go ahead and continue to apply those, often conflicting and contradictory, “band aid” fixes and “tips” to your swing from those monthly Golf magazine subscriptions with your favorite PGA tour pro on the cover serving up another tip or drill for you to crush it like him off the tee. When that doesn’t work find a teaching professional who’ll have you work on the “fundamentals” of the “conventional” golf swing only to have you to become more thoroughly frustrated as to why you can’t get rid of the banana ball flight to the right, the thin shots, and the fat “earth moving” shots. To eliminate all of that there are two words that can put you game on the right track if you don’t have the time a tour pro does to devote to practicing a golf swing: Stack and Tilt
Get Stacked

 
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December 21st, 2008 at 8:51 pm

Hi Mike,

I’ve written a couple articles on the Stack and Tilt and I must say, I’ve been amazed at the amount of interest (views) they’ve had.

The theory to me just sounds solid. To keep your weight over the ball just makes sense in attaining consistency.

I was able to try it last year (albeit last couple months of the season), and was quite convinced of the results. I live in Michigan so have been unable to work on it since due to our lovely climate :mad: . However I will be hitting the indoor range beginning in January and plan on continuing my experimentation with the swing.

 
Comment by dan clements
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December 23rd, 2008 at 6:39 pm

I have been using the stack and tilt for about a month now through cold bad weather. My ball is traveling summer distance in cold weather. Many more solid hits with high ball flight and soft landings. Its not there yet, but this swing seems to be the answer for this 68 year old golfer who is trying to hang in there with the flat bellies.

 
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February 9th, 2009 at 5:03 pm

I am an ex-professional mini-tour player. Since I also have an engineering degree I would like to think that I’ve quite critically analized every swing technique I’ve come by (i.e. – one plane swing, golf machine, etc.). I played professionally for three years usually scoring at or under par in tournament setup courses but I always had consistency issues.

Having lived in another state for the last two years and due to injuries I’ve not touched a club. After just getting back into it I made some adjustments on my own and they worked well. I called my old coach (who used to teach Ernie Els) and he told me that the few things I brought up were fundamentals of something new called stack and tilt. Having not watched any golf TV and being away from it I went to research. True enough I only had to make a few very minor adjustments to swing by S&T.

As an industry guy and someone who’s seen many “ideas” and “theory” come and go I feel confident about these swing mechanics and the use thereof for my swing. Hitting on the range yesterday I feel more consistant and more powerful than ever; even though I’ve not played in two years.

I would add that the S&T swing will:
- make your impact point more consistent
- be better if you are flexibility challenged
- make driver swings more natural
- be more consistent and more controllable
- be more difficult to shape

As a side note, if you cannot move your hips fast (i.e. – drive your hips, fire your hips, etc.) S&T will result in pulls and you will not hit the ball high enough or with flat/ascending blow.

Word to the wise… Take any “swing theory” and try it and learn from it. Use ideas to learn and take from each goods and bads. Learn enough also to realize how different things relate to each other (rotation of hips flatten swing, etc.). Don’t be a robot and make your own theory, affected by other’s theories…

Green Fairways!

 
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February 9th, 2009 at 6:12 pm

Yes, BJ you are spot on about the hips having to fire quick for stack and tilt. When I first started went to the to stack and tilt swing, I would hit poor shots when my hips got lazy during th latter part of a round. With the S&T swing I have hit more fairways with my driver due to my impact being consistent. This has also resulted in more GIR’s for me too. Because this swing has more control going for it, even my misses, both off the tee and from the fairway, are still serviceable shots for up and downs. Because my misses are very salvageable, I had to improve my wedge play alot as oppossed to just hacking it out of the rough or pitching it back into the fairway.

Also, I found it very interesting that you mentioned about learning from different swing theories; I just finished reading the golf classic, Ben Hogan’s five lessons, and the mantra of his book is that “the hips start the downswing.” I applied that to the S&T swing and it has helped quit a bit. By getting the hips moving first, the rest of the swing really just takes care of itself as long as my spine angle is maintained through impact and I release my spine angle on the followthrough (the springing up motion), my ball flight is good. Lastly, you mention that the stack and tilt is difficult to shape; yes, that is true, especially with game improvement clubs with more offset, however, with clubs that have less offset, and by by changing the line of compression by centering the hands at set up as opposed the clubshaft leaning forward, a decent cut shot from left to right can be made.

Good success with your game and
Same to you Green fairways

 
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February 23rd, 2009 at 2:26 pm

I am going to try the Stack and Tilt swing. I have a bad right knee and trying to fire off the right side to gain power is tough now….I feel staying on the left side will help me a lot. I’m a low single handicap at 64 still playing from 67-6800 yards off the tee. I do however have a tendency with this right knee proplem seem to be pushing a lot of shots to the right especially with the driver. I tried a modified stack and tilt and hit the ball well with no pain….any comments or suggestions?

 
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February 26th, 2009 at 6:07 pm

I have been trying the S&T swing for about three weeks now and it seems to be working overall. But….when practicing my all my shots are beginning to become push or shank shots..I cannot get the ball to draw like when I first started using the swing..Should be a point in the swing that I am missing to get the ball back to the nice draw with power vs weak push shot…Need your help! Thanks. Ed Parsley,Sr.

 
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February 26th, 2009 at 6:43 pm

Ed Parsley

Make sure that you are keeping your weight to the left side on the down swing, also, make sure that your arms are coming in on and inside path

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February 27th, 2009 at 1:17 pm

Timothy, Thank you for your comment…I am going out to the driving range today and will try to do the two things stated in your mail …will keep in contact with you on results…Thanks Again, Ed Parsley,Sr.

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February 27th, 2009 at 3:31 pm

Timothy…Just had to get back with you on my problems on pushing and shanking the ball…Kept weight on left side on down swing and then started on hitting the ball on the inside cover for inside path to a complete finish. Shots were hit solid and the push stopped!! What a nice feel when done correctly! Thank You , will keep in contact …Ed Parsley,Sr. :smile: :

 
 
 
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February 27th, 2009 at 10:16 pm

Hey Ed

Glad that work that worked for you, just remember to keep your weight left on the back swing….In getting used to this swing I had to remember not to translate any weight back to the right, if that happens the club face will get as inside as it should. Also, make sure that you are extending your right leg sufficiently on the back swing but not locking it out. The right leg extentsion does two things 1. it gets your left shouder pointed down 2. your hips turned on that tilted angle which helps get the club inside

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March 9th, 2009 at 7:07 pm

TimothyW I am still using S&T after viewing Bennet and Plummer’s DVDs/ I am totally happy with this new feel and am building confidence after using the same…My points of swing now include ,,!.weight on left side on set up along with “Y” formed by arms with left hand forward of ball/. Then my move is to start swing with left shoulder going down while pulling back with the right upper forearm together..as one piece..Also stay over ball and don’t move head…The draw is nice and the ball is hit solid….Also keep everything going back in a not rushed backswing…The only thing that I am concerned about is my total finish of the swing does not seem full in order to have a “hold finish” feel,,I am not really thinking of any movement on my downswing to get through the ball..It just does not seem necessary to my current swing which is getting the ball going at the green more and more with power…Can you give me any info in my finish..Like hold my finish with weight on left side…..I don’t know what I look like in the completed swing. MY CONFIDENDE IS GREATLY INCREASED WITH THIS SWING.. THANKS AGAIN FOR YOUR INPUT! Ed Parsley,Sr.

 
 
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March 10th, 2009 at 3:56 pm

Hey Ed

Glad you really coming along with the S &T swing, and the DVD’s do guide you in the right direction. As far the finish is concerned you should have your hips facing the target. and your weight like 95 percent on you left side. NEVER TRANSLATE ANY WEIGHT BACK. Your finish should be compact with your right arm 20 degrees inside your target line while maintaining a good degree of the “flying wedge.” Your follow through, as Mike and Andy explain on the videos, will not have a lot of excessive wrap around movement. As soon as your right arm extends on the follow through and your wrist naturally re cock, your swing is pretty much done at that point. The S &T is a great swing, I am enjoying greater consistency with it. Heck, with this swing i actually had to learn how to reapir ball marks as I am hitting more greens in regulation.

 
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May 13th, 2009 at 2:23 pm

:smile: Been practicing a lot with S&T . One thing recently found out that thinking towels on backswing really helps keep my swing more compact! I am also thinking on swinging through the ball…Slide at the target with hips and high finish…(Slide-High) finish, especially with driver…Another point if i don’t use left shoulder moving DOWN at ball will lose power…My Irons are much straighter and in easy to score results around greens!! Ed Parsley,Sr.

 
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May 13th, 2009 at 7:47 pm

Hey Ed
Congrats on your success with S&T. The hip slide is a key move with the S&T; if the hips get lazy with this swing then it pretty much goes south. You mentioned a good key point about the shoulder, it sounds like you are making sure that it’s pointed down towards the target line on the backswing on a sufficiently steep angle so the club head can on a downward angle and get the ball up in the air. How are your misses with the S&T method? They should be very playable shots as opposed to having to scramble.

 
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May 18th, 2009 at 8:18 am

Hello Ed,
I love the S&T. The DVD’s are amazing and do improve game score.
My swing is improving that’s for making this possible.

-John

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May 18th, 2009 at 5:45 pm

John, Read your mail.. I too have the DVDs and they do help on pointing out parts of the S&T swing. One I just found and tried was the right hip turning up and back on backswing, along with left knee bending to target line at the same time…helps work the tilt to the left ..Also using the hands by going inside the line…. Trying to keep in simple is a good idea and not think too much except the weight must be on left foot all the way to the finish….I use a slide high finish..A must …Ed Parsley,Sr.

 
 
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July 6th, 2009 at 9:33 am

I am concerned about back problems with the S&T. I used it and thought it was fantastic but backed off because of a physiotherapist specialized in golf told me I would injure my back and pop a hernia if done repeatedly.
I really want to get Stacked again but I am worried for my back. Any studies that could help me?

StevieBoy

 
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July 20th, 2009 at 10:41 pm

Stack and Tilt works great! BUT, it has it’s secrets… It has been my natural swing since the start. This is my first year of taking golf seriously and getting out to play more than once or twice a season. Now I’m out 3 to 4 times a week on the range hitting 200 balls or playing rounds. It is possible to get good distance with a driver. I can regularly drive over 300 yards with S+T. I have noticed the “on and off” days everyone keeps talking about…and after 2 or 3 weeks my swing did get messed up a little just like everyone describes. So I started thinking…why would my swing be awesome and then for no reason start losing power, and hitting crap shots…? I took video upon video and anylized my good swings from my bad swings and what I found is that when I first started getting out this year I was really loading up well, loading the shaft and driving my hips forward…producing a powerful swing with a lot of consistancy. A great S+T. As this season has gone on, I’ve gotten more flexible from the S+T (Left arm, back, mid section). That’s where the problem lies for most people that they don’t notice… My back swing was getting farther and farther back, my wrists were cocking further, my left knee was dropping farther, and because of all this my weight wasn’t driving forward on impact. I, in a sence, got so flexible I couldn’t properly load my club, and the farther I went back looking for the powerful “coiled” feeling I found at the begining of the season, the more my timing and swing angle got out of hand. So, looking back for all of you other S+T’ers out there, make sure you check your angles (wrist cock and left knee flex especially), and don’t let your increased flexibility ruin your great new swing. Just slow it down and concentrate on driving forward and opening your hips. If not you’ll probably wind up driving your body more up, than up and forward…zapping your power and leading to those “on and off” days. One more thing I’ve found that is suppose to be a big no no is that S+T works a lot better if you keep your arms straight at address, rather than letting them hang down naturaly. Think of yourself as a giant pendulum. Keep the shaft and your arms on a 45 degree plane all the way through your back swing. It kind of feels like swinging a bat but it feels natural and easy because of the left shoulder dip and forward lean. Keep your back at a 45 and your club plane at a 45 degree angle and you’ll drive like a champ, a little steeper for irons. (I also use a bat style grip, not over laping my pinkies at all) This helps keep the club face square and leads to consistancy. If you are having problems with contact, try bringing the club back shallower (like a bat) on your back swing. DON’T FORGET TO DRIVE YOUR HIPS FORWARD/UP AND OPEN THEM UP. Also remember on your back swing your knee should point to the ball as it flexes, and your right knee should straighten. Don’t over flex your left or you’ll come in way too steep and take a divit. As you get more flexible, you’ll have to think about these things and check yourself. One more thing, tee your ball up so that the top of the driver head is lined up about 3/4 up the ball, and in the middle of your stance. Any higher or forward and you’ll lose distance and power. Throw all of that ball forward in your stance and tee up higher crap out the window for this swing style or you’ll suffer and be stroking your 5wd (off the carpet) just as far as your driver. Good luck.

Jorell
If you have any questions or want to see more video feel free to contact me at JorellR40@gmail.com

*search for “Jorell’s Stack and Tilt” on You Tube if you want to see a good example of when I was starting to lose my shot. You’ll see the over cocked wrists, and no hip thrust forward. But it will give you a general idea of where to start. (Keep in mind I forgot my cleats that day, and your left foot shouldn’t turn as much as mine in the video.)

 
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September 22nd, 2009 at 8:00 pm

What has really worked for me( all technical points aside) is the weight forward idea. All you have to do is start with noticeably more weight on your front foot, and then press into that foot as you take the club up. This will feel noticeable different than what you are used to. With this in place you should hit fewer thin hits, but it may also result in more pushes, especially with the longer clubs, so you may have to adjust the positioning of the ball.

 
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December 31st, 2009 at 3:36 pm

Mike-
Great blog and discussion on the Stack & Tilt. What are your thoughts about the facts none of the pros seem to stick with it, and the only pro I can think of actively using the S&T that has won with it is Will Mackenzie. Aaron Baddeley used to be the poster-boy for this swing, but he has since abandoned it and gone back to his original swing. As I watched him more (and others using it) I noticed the bad shots increasingly going to the left. Especially during high pressure situations. I personally think this has been caused by a reverse shift at impact which is very easy to do with the S&T.
Thoughts?

 
Comment by Johnnylu
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March 24th, 2010 at 1:41 pm

The stack and tilt golf swing seems like a new way of playing golf but i like watching players using the method

 
Comment by Deron Sizemore
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June 24th, 2010 at 10:22 am

Stack and Tilt kind of gets a bad wrap sometimes and is thought of as a “new” way to swing the club. A lot of people think it’s new because it has a name labeled to the swing. If you look at a lot of the top players throughout history, many of them incorporate many of the theories that is “stack and tilt.” Mike and Andy just put it together and gave it a name.

 
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August 30th, 2010 at 12:37 pm

Help, tore my ACL in right knee and I’m a 5 handicap trying to avoid surgery at 46. Is this S & T swing a better way to go for me now? Will it take less stress off my right knee? Any thoughts appreciated

 
Comment by Steve Snead
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October 1st, 2010 at 6:32 am

I’ve been testing a couple of my teenage students with this system lately with some great results. Glad I came by your site Mike, have bookmarked you to recommend.

Your Golf Buddy…Steve

 
Comment by roy
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January 9th, 2011 at 1:28 pm

Frank can you help me with some tips to help been trying for 6 weeks limited success.Thanks

 
Comment by Bill
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August 14th, 2011 at 12:13 pm

I like Bubba Watson’s method. He went out to the driving range and swung at the ball as hard as he could, made adjustments to his swing until he could hit it consistently. Simple and it works.

 
Comment by Benton
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September 14th, 2011 at 8:12 am

It had been great to read through through your article. I personally appreciated the short while that I spent looking through it and wished to leave a comment to say that….Regards

 
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January 4th, 2012 at 7:16 am

i am a 16 yr old and i have been playing for a year with a handicap of 13, i started using the stack and tilt a few weeks ago and i have a round at 1 under gross and a few rounds in the low seventies but i have started to have some pain in my left knee any tips??

Comment by Mike
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January 4th, 2012 at 10:43 am

Sean,

I’m not all too familiar with the specific techniques of stack and tilt, but if you are experiencing pain, you need to find the “root cause” of the pain, and stop doing whatever is causing that pain or you will create an “overuse” issue, with a more severe knee injury that could keep you off the course indefinitely.

Mike

 
 
Comment by sean
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January 5th, 2012 at 7:40 am

ok thanks :smile:

 
Comment by sean
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January 13th, 2012 at 7:51 am

i have taken some weight of my left side because of pain in my left knee so now i have about 60% of my weight on my left, and i have stopped tilting so now i am just stacked and i am hitting it better. after a few weeks of the stack and tilt it changes without you even noticing and then suddenly you start hitting snap hooks and shots that arent going higher than 30ft. after the change im hitting it better and further with incredible accuracy. i would recommend just being stacked. hope this helps :)

 

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