



In continuing with this stack and tilt golf swing method, lets look at the second phase of the swing compared to a conventional golf swing.
In the picture below with Will MacKenzie and Tiger Woods, you’ll see some major differences in the top of the backswing position.

Notice how much shorter MacKenzie’s back swing is than Tigers. You can see how he is more centered than Tiger. Tiger is more loaded on his back (right) leg. Tiger has obviously “loaded” his golf swing into a powerful right leg position.
One thing I notice that seems a little iffy to me is his spine angle. Straight up and nearly leaning towards the target, whereas Tiger is leaning away from the target, more behind the ball. I think a lot of amateurs would reverse tilt and have a major swing flaw with this stack and tilt swing methods.
The debate will go on, but it’s interesting to break it down and compare these two very different golf swing methods.
I invite you to chime in and give me your thoughts and feedback on this swing technique. I will have a final, Part 3 coming up in the next couple of days, so stay tuned
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October 10th, 2007 at 7:57 am
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October 10th, 2007 at 11:49 am
Hi Mike,
Maybe it’s because I’m so used to seeing pictures / articles and am always trying to improve on my ‘conventional’ swing but the ’stack & tilt’ just doesn’t look right especially when you look at ball positioning and body position etc.
Having starting to get to grips with certain areas of the conventional swing I’ll think I’ll leave the ’stack & tilt’ alone for now! I guess that some of the pros may have more time to work on the changes than me!
Out of inteterest do you know if anyone has had any success on the Euro or US tours with ’stack & tilt’
If it becomes successful on the tours then maybe we will see a major shift in people using it and it might become the new ‘conventional’ swing in years to come.
All the best,
Mark.
October 10th, 2007 at 12:16 pm
Aaron Baddeley is a Stack and Tilt Golf Swing proponent.
October 10th, 2007 at 12:46 pm
Hi Mike,
And a good player he is too so it’s certainly working for him.
Another thought on the ’stack & tilt’ - with a shorter backswing and the body not so much behind the ball I wonder if as much power is generated in the shot. I guess it is achieved but in a different way.
Definitely an interesting subject Mike!
Best wishes,
Mark.
October 10th, 2007 at 9:28 pm
Look at the short backswing of Zac Johnson and he kills the ball
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October 10th, 2007 at 5:48 pm
Yes, if not performed correctly the S&T would certainly result with many amateurs in a reverse tilt position. To prevent a reverse tilt, the golfer needs to really bear down on the front foot and leg, while maintaining balance in the downswing through the ball.
October 10th, 2007 at 9:29 pm
Good addtional tip Tony!
October 10th, 2007 at 5:59 pm
hey mike
this stack and tilt has a fair bit of success, With 3 or 4 different winners and aaron baddeley having won twice with this method. So its not to be laughed at, but for me its just not natural, If someone throws a football at you and you kick it back do you think about how much you have to turn your body or how you dip your left shoulder or the way you lift your arms in the air for balance and how far you pull you foot back so the ball gets back to them, NO you don,t your brain does all that on its own without any help from you this is the way your golf swing should be, but with the stack and tilt thats just not possible you have to do things yourself while your trying to swing
October 10th, 2007 at 9:30 pm
Man I hear ya Thomas! Paralysis by analysis
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October 11th, 2007 at 5:58 am
well all i can say about u thinking to much about the stack and tilt every1 does with the conventional swing anyway so whats the difference , theres still people teaching the swing and earning good money for what is meant to be as natural as walking. Those pictures are rather poor anyway and don’t give much of an idea of the stack and tilt
October 11th, 2007 at 6:00 am
I can appreciate your comments, but the pictures are right from the article, so they are the best on the web. And I guess since all of this information is for FREE, FREE is a pretty good price for valuable information don’t you think?
October 11th, 2007 at 8:39 am
hi leigh,
I guess you can’t see much of a difference in the above pictures, which is probably why you can’t see where i,m coming from, The stack and tilt golfer is clearly tilting towards the target with all his weight stacked on his left foot, while with the conventional swing your weight is on your back foot, which is why i say if you pick up a club don’t think and just swing everything that happens with the conventional swing is a natural process all the weight changes will just happen, this is not the case with the stack and tilt,
And as for the people teaching the swing and making money from it, You try asking one of them how simple the golf swing really is and you never get an honest answer,
In golf all you need is a good fitness program that covers both strength and stretching and get your starting points right
regards thomas
October 12th, 2007 at 11:42 pm
Hi Mike
but it needs the flexibility, strength and technique that you talk about. You certainly have to get back onto the left side when swinging through. Distance will be there as will accuracy as long as your fudamentals are corect.
Stack and Tilt is the way to go
Jeremy
November 4th, 2007 at 11:54 am
November 24th, 2007 at 11:04 am
I’m 64 years young, 5′9″ tall with a medium build. My spine is not quite as bad as Forrest Gump’s was, but it has a bow to the left in the middle of my back which appears to be about 6″ long on the x-ray and I have a backward curvature of my neck. Not to mention that my right hip gives me fits. I’m right-handed. Using the S&T method: when I lean to the left placing weight on my left leg it’s like I’m straightening the crook in my back momentarily (feels good and hurts at the same time). After a round of golf I feel as though I’ve been beat up, no matter what kind of technique I use. But the pain is a small price to pay for the exhilaration I feel when the golf ball rockets off the club head after good contact. And… I do make better contact most of the time using S&T because the technique keeps me from lunging forward like a madman. 250 is good drive for me, but the other day I caught one perfect and it went 280 or better. Yes!!!!! Did I mention that I love golf?
November 4th, 2007 at 12:08 pm
Rob,
I think for a slider like you, this technique would be perfect
. Nothing ventured, nothing gained right?
Mike
February 23rd, 2008 at 10:33 am
the iron shots are so solid @ more consistant, im still working with the driver. im a six hdc . have been playing for fifty years, @ this is the first time for a major swing change. thank you. Frank Franze Winter Springs Fl. 32708
May 19th, 2008 at 9:30 pm
my common for who is in this new swing,you’ll get it fast if can star with your body movement,not copy the tour player’s picture to build your swing,the only way is learn your body first then the club movement.
June 28th, 2008 at 7:12 pm
Just tried the stack and tilt swing for the first time. I had been struggling with hitting the ball flush and could not get off the tee with the driver. It was amazing how easy it was with this swing. I was hitting my 5 iron 200 yards and flying my driver over 250 yards. Until today I have never hit my driver close to 250 yds. I can’t wait to get back and continue to practice this new swing.
July 24th, 2008 at 5:04 pm
If you think about it this swing is the most simple swing you can learn. First the “original swing” your taught to transfer weight to your back foot then bac kto the front foot all in a 2 1/2 second swing. This is everything at position. If your spine, torso and head are all over the ball all address and its where you really want to be at impact because thats where the bottom of your swing is. You will hit the ball much more solid and flush if you try this great swing. Its something you need to do if you want to be a great ball striker and solid player!! Now just line the putts up right and you might make some money!!!
August 1st, 2008 at 12:56 pm
I have just started messing with this swing method and I have been hitting massive pull hooks, especially with the driver. I think it is from turning the hips through without the slide forward. I will venture to the range and work on the slide some more this weekend. To me the swing does not feel all that odd, I have not made a major swing change in years.
August 5th, 2008 at 4:34 pm
I saw the stack and tilt on t.v. two nites ago. After looking it up on the internet ,I went out to the driving range and tried it. It works for me and my first round I hit seven of nine greens . Something I could never do before. My distance and accuracy has improved. Mark in N.D.